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There's been a little bit of recently about DirecTV's latest HD Extra pack. In the early days of HD. DirecTV's HD programming was optional then about a year ago requiring every customer with a HD capable STB to pay a $10/mo HD access fee which included all their HD channels. But now that they've they moved most of the HD only channels (those not simulcasts of SD channels ie. UHD) to a new tier called the HD Extra pack for $5/mo extra. Now according to Earl Bonovich of DBSTalk com starting yesterday customers will have to re-sign up for these channels,. The good news is that the first three months are free and includes access to; HDNet Movies. MGM HD. MHD. Smithsonian HD and Universal HD. Mysteriously missing from this list are. Food HD. HGTV HD and. Eddie they should be calling you. They are giving a "free" swap for your old HDTiVo. I just got the call today. Funny thing is. I called at the end of August and complained about having to pay for a new HR20 and got it for free as a "replacement" for my current HDTiVo with full intent on still using the old unit for OTA locals. That way I can record 4 shows at the same time (Never needed to but I've needed to do 3 on Monday Night) Now I'm getting a second one for free and still am able to use the TiVo for locals. Oh Ben on the "mysteriously missing" HDNet and Mark Cuban complained enough about being pushed up to this Extra tier and will be put in the regular HD lineup. I could have sworn it was you guys that reported that. I'll search where I read that and post a link. In the 8 years I've had DirecTV this is the first thing they've done that has irritated me really. When I got my HDTV 2 months ago and they sold me on the HD tier they couldn't have mentioned then that they were going to do this new tier? I was sold a list of channels and a promise of more for $10/mo... 2 months later the list suddenly gets shorter or the price goes up (I know they added a ton of channels but that's not the point here. Those channels were promised at 10/mo) could be worse... I could still be watching a 27" TV. All depends on how you want to view what is the "package".... The HD Access is $9.99; but what channels you get ties directly to your BASE packages. So if you only get FAMILY CHOICE that $9.99 only gets you about 10-15 of the HD channels. If you have the Premier package that $9.99 gets you access to all 85ish HD channels (minus the HD Extra Package). The HD Extra Package for the $4.99 gives you access to the additional channels regardless of what base package you have. So to get "everything" that is available in HD... $99 + $14.99 = $113.99And even that doesn't include all the extended sports packages (like Sunday Ticket. NHL ect) Verizon FiOS subscribers do not have to worry about "tiers". All of their HD channels are part of the lineup. The only thing that subscribers need to pay for is the monthly rental for the HD STB. Although FiOS subscribers only have 30+ HD channels (including local HD) they don't have to pay for Food Network HD. Universal HD. HDNET 1 & 2. NFL HD etc. I think DirectTV should start looking to use that model instead. As soon as Verizon FiOS supposedly gets all 150 HD channels on thier network (sometime in 2008 and lots more availability (they really need to ramp up laying fiber) you might see a lot of people look at FiOS as a viable alternative. I called up DirecTV and asked them to drop all the Standard Def channels because I don't need them or watch them anymore. That way maybe I could save a few bucks. Of course. I knew better and fully expected their response of NO we can't do that. Then when I asked for a credit for the two extra boxes they've been charging me for 6 months they politely tell me that they only refund 60 days on anything. It was up to me to check my bill and tell them earlier. Of course they had stopped sendng paper bills so I never saw a statement. And further they had all th paperwork since they are the oncs who replaced the old HD boxes... It's worse than dealing with a government agency. I've been paying about $90 per month to DirecTV for the last six years. I have been out of contract for the last three and the last four years I've had the HD Package for which I've paid originally $15 then $10 and then $15 again all without having to call a second time (e g after it initially was subscribed to four years ago). Wife wants to replace the two SD DVRs with two HR-20-700's but DirecTV wants $400. They want $300 for the second HR20 and $100 for the new dish plus shipping and handling. Now compare this to Dish Networks and Comcast (not advocating them) not trying to charge me anything for a pair of HD DVRs. I tried the 'cancel service' at the top of the telephone tree and got to a customer retention department but $400 plus S&H is a no deal and this just to be able to a) pay them a monthly lease fee and b) to pay them extra for something I was already getting? Hmm. If I were single I'd cancel their service. I get good digital signals from the locals already via OTA and have little use for stretch-o-vision (and HDlite). "Tis the season to bend over," says DirecTV. to GhostDoggy: I would recommend calling back and speaking with someone else. When I moved last February. I called DTV to move my service and upgrade to the new equipment at the same time. I had to call in four different times before I got to speak to anyone helpful at all. They kept moving closer but I finally got everything I wanted once I spoke to someone who knew how to "massage" the system internally. A little patience from you could reap some better benefits if you just keep on trying. I spread my calls out over the course of about a week or ten days and was actually scheduled for a Dish install before I closed the deal with DTV. After my hard work last winter. I'm happy to say that I've enjoyed all the new HD programming AND all my locals (except NBC - bastards!) via my Direct service. I'm going to add another HD set in my bedroom for Christmas and I'm going to try to upgrade from my old RCA DTV SDTivo to another HR20 in the bedroom for free next. I'll let you know how successful I am later. Directv has some tempting HD channels and I would know. I set up a HT for a relative that included a H20 and Slimline Dish in the mix. Trouble is our location is missing CBSHD and lately the HR21s are coming for installs instead of HR20s and these do not do OTA for the reception intergration or recording. This is really sad because Directv does not yet have the D11 launched and operational for this occur (all the digital/HD locals). Even giving up the CBSHD for its lousy analogue service (which is really bad on the Milwaukee channel). Directv's charge per their site indicates $597 for 2 HD DVRs. 1 HD box. 1 SD box to replace what I have with cable. While I save approx. $35/month on the payTV side. I lose at total of $10 in discounts on my phone and internet service but factoring that out. I pay back my up front lease costs in about 17 months. The $4.95/month extra for the extra HD channels for Directv does not bother me at all since I pay $6.95/month for TWC services' HD package for a lousy 4 HD channels one of them is HDNET which is now included with Directv's basic $9.99/month fee for HD service when you get a HD box from them. What I want to do now is wait for the HR21s to have an adder box or whatever comes to upgrade it to OTA or have the D11 satellite add my CBSHD to my local service. Directv has joined the ranks of cable outlets with bait and switch and moulti=tier pricing that hides the real cost of subscribing. I bought a year ago and agreed to a 2-year contract when there were only 7-8 channels. I complained that they were changing the contract and I should be allowed to opt out. Supervisor said fine print said they reserved right to change prices and packages. They are acting like a car dealer who hides several thousand dollars of charges after the buyer sign the dotted line. They lost all goodwill and credibility. I'm in market to switch. If enough of us $80-$100 a month customers opt out over their $4.95 surcharge maybe they will grow a conscience. Had the same experience. I went through 3 levels of customer service people who all tried to tiptoe around the fact that their policy is suspect. I ultimately ended with the main supervisor there who reminded me that according to their contract they can change whatever they want with or without telling me so I could either deal with it or cancel my service. Nice attitude after 13 years of subscribing to their services. Too bad. I'd hoped for at least an apology for not being adequately notified about the change. It is plain old dirty pool! I have been a loyal customer for several years now and this is just a low blow. I had no idea what was going on and found out that a few of the normal HD channels were not working so I called. They told me the free trial period ended and I now had pay for the channels. I said I was already paying for them and they replied but these are the only channels that are HD 24/7 so they were extra. They were kind enough to extend my "trial" until March (sarcasm.) Shady! I am thinking about making a switch! DTV has called me 3 times now with their automated dialer informing me that they are offering a free HD Upgrade with new dish and installation. They further advise me that not only will I not be able to receive any new HD offerings but that I will lose my current HD channels (No indication of when) if I don't replace my current equipment. So I called their 800 number and was informed that I was entitled to a new HD receiver. Trouble is that I have the DTV HD TiVo. They promptly told me that I would have to pay $299.00 to replace that. Wait. I just bought that DTV HD TiVo 2years ago and now DTV is FORCING me to pay again to replace the system so that I can continue to receive the HD channels I currently get. HUH? I informed them that I would be purchasing an HD TiVo for $299 and getting FiOs cable cards for it when I lose my HD programming from DTV. I asked when that was going to happen and have not heard anything back from them since.

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There's been a little bit of recently about DirecTV's latest HD Extra pack. In the early days of HD. DirecTV's HD programming was optional then about a year ago requiring every customer with a HD capable STB to pay a $10/mo HD access fee which included all their HD channels. But now that they've they moved most of the HD only channels (those not simulcasts of SD channels ie. UHD) to a new tier called the HD Extra pack for $5/mo extra. Now according to Earl Bonovich of DBSTalk com starting yesterday customers will have to re-sign up for these channels,. The good news is that the first three months are free and includes access to; HDNet Movies. MGM HD. MHD. Smithsonian HD and Universal HD. Mysteriously missing from this list are. Food HD. HGTV HD and. Eddie they should be calling you. They are giving a "free" swap for your old HDTiVo. I just got the call today. Funny thing is. I called at the end of August and complained about having to pay for a new HR20 and got it for free as a "replacement" for my current HDTiVo with full intent on still using the old unit for OTA locals. That way I can record 4 shows at the same time (Never needed to but I've needed to do 3 on Monday Night) Now I'm getting a second one for free and still am able to use the TiVo for locals. Oh Ben on the "mysteriously missing" HDNet and Mark Cuban complained enough about being pushed up to this Extra tier and will be put in the regular HD lineup. I could have sworn it was you guys that reported that. I'll search where I read that and post a link. In the 8 years I've had DirecTV this is the first thing they've done that has irritated me really. When I got my HDTV 2 months ago and they sold me on the HD tier they couldn't have mentioned then that they were going to do this new tier? I was sold a list of channels and a promise of more for $10/mo... 2 months later the list suddenly gets shorter or the price goes up (I know they added a ton of channels but that's not the point here. Those channels were promised at 10/mo) could be worse... I could still be watching a 27" TV. All depends on how you want to view what is the "package".... The HD Access is $9.99; but what channels you get ties directly to your BASE packages. So if you only get FAMILY CHOICE that $9.99 only gets you about 10-15 of the HD channels. If you have the Premier package that $9.99 gets you access to all 85ish HD channels (minus the HD Extra Package). The HD Extra Package for the $4.99 gives you access to the additional channels regardless of what base package you have. So to get "everything" that is available in HD... $99 + $14.99 = $113.99And even that doesn't include all the extended sports packages (like Sunday Ticket. NHL ect) Verizon FiOS subscribers do not have to worry about "tiers". All of their HD channels are part of the lineup. The only thing that subscribers need to pay for is the monthly rental for the HD STB. Although FiOS subscribers only have 30+ HD channels (including local HD) they don't have to pay for Food Network HD. Universal HD. HDNET 1 & 2. NFL HD etc. I think DirectTV should start looking to use that model instead. As soon as Verizon FiOS supposedly gets all 150 HD channels on thier network (sometime in 2008 and lots more availability (they really need to ramp up laying fiber) you might see a lot of people look at FiOS as a viable alternative. I called up DirecTV and asked them to drop all the Standard Def channels because I don't need them or watch them anymore. That way maybe I could save a few bucks. Of course. I knew better and fully expected their response of NO we can't do that. Then when I asked for a credit for the two extra boxes they've been charging me for 6 months they politely tell me that they only refund 60 days on anything. It was up to me to check my bill and tell them earlier. Of course they had stopped sendng paper bills so I never saw a statement. And further they had all th paperwork since they are the oncs who replaced the old HD boxes... It's worse than dealing with a government agency. I've been paying about $90 per month to DirecTV for the last six years. I have been out of contract for the last three and the last four years I've had the HD Package for which I've paid originally $15 then $10 and then $15 again all without having to call a second time (e g after it initially was subscribed to four years ago). Wife wants to replace the two SD DVRs with two HR-20-700's but DirecTV wants $400. They want $300 for the second HR20 and $100 for the new dish plus shipping and handling. Now compare this to Dish Networks and Comcast (not advocating them) not trying to charge me anything for a pair of HD DVRs. I tried the 'cancel service' at the top of the telephone tree and got to a customer retention department but $400 plus S&H is a no deal and this just to be able to a) pay them a monthly lease fee and b) to pay them extra for something I was already getting? Hmm. If I were single I'd cancel their service. I get good digital signals from the locals already via OTA and have little use for stretch-o-vision (and HDlite). "Tis the season to bend over," says DirecTV. to GhostDoggy: I would recommend calling back and speaking with someone else. When I moved last February. I called DTV to move my service and upgrade to the new equipment at the same time. I had to call in four different times before I got to speak to anyone helpful at all. They kept moving closer but I finally got everything I wanted once I spoke to someone who knew how to "massage" the system internally. A little patience from you could reap some better benefits if you just keep on trying. I spread my calls out over the course of about a week or ten days and was actually scheduled for a Dish install before I closed the deal with DTV. After my hard work last winter. I'm happy to say that I've enjoyed all the new HD programming AND all my locals (except NBC - bastards!) via my Direct service. I'm going to add another HD set in my bedroom for Christmas and I'm going to try to upgrade from my old RCA DTV SDTivo to another HR20 in the bedroom for free next. I'll let you know how successful I am later. Directv has some tempting HD channels and I would know. I set up a HT for a relative that included a H20 and Slimline Dish in the mix. Trouble is our location is missing CBSHD and lately the HR21s are coming for installs instead of HR20s and these do not do OTA for the reception intergration or recording. This is really sad because Directv does not yet have the D11 launched and operational for this occur (all the digital/HD locals). Even giving up the CBSHD for its lousy analogue service (which is really bad on the Milwaukee channel). Directv's charge per their site indicates $597 for 2 HD DVRs. 1 HD box. 1 SD box to replace what I have with cable. While I save approx. $35/month on the payTV side. I lose at total of $10 in discounts on my phone and internet service but factoring that out. I pay back my up front lease costs in about 17 months. The $4.95/month extra for the extra HD channels for Directv does not bother me at all since I pay $6.95/month for TWC services' HD package for a lousy 4 HD channels one of them is HDNET which is now included with Directv's basic $9.99/month fee for HD service when you get a HD box from them. What I want to do now is wait for the HR21s to have an adder box or whatever comes to upgrade it to OTA or have the D11 satellite add my CBSHD to my local service. Directv has joined the ranks of cable outlets with bait and switch and moulti=tier pricing that hides the real cost of subscribing. I bought a year ago and agreed to a 2-year contract when there were only 7-8 channels. I complained that they were changing the contract and I should be allowed to opt out. Supervisor said fine print said they reserved right to change prices and packages. They are acting like a car dealer who hides several thousand dollars of charges after the buyer sign the dotted line. They lost all goodwill and credibility. I'm in market to switch. If enough of us $80-$100 a month customers opt out over their $4.95 surcharge maybe they will grow a conscience. Had the same experience. I went through 3 levels of customer service people who all tried to tiptoe around the fact that their policy is suspect. I ultimately ended with the main supervisor there who reminded me that according to their contract they can change whatever they want with or without telling me so I could either deal with it or cancel my service. Nice attitude after 13 years of subscribing to their services. Too bad. I'd hoped for at least an apology for not being adequately notified about the change. It is plain old dirty pool! I have been a loyal customer for several years now and this is just a low blow. I had no idea what was going on and found out that a few of the normal HD channels were not working so I called. They told me the free trial period ended and I now had pay for the channels. I said I was already paying for them and they replied but these are the only channels that are HD 24/7 so they were extra. They were kind enough to extend my "trial" until March (sarcasm.) Shady! I am thinking about making a switch! DTV has called me 3 times now with their automated dialer informing me that they are offering a free HD Upgrade with new dish and installation. They further advise me that not only will I not be able to receive any new HD offerings but that I will lose my current HD channels (No indication of when) if I don't replace my current equipment. So I called their 800 number and was informed that I was entitled to a new HD receiver. Trouble is that I have the DTV HD TiVo. They promptly told me that I would have to pay $299.00 to replace that. Wait. I just bought that DTV HD TiVo 2years ago and now DTV is FORCING me to pay again to replace the system so that I can continue to receive the HD channels I currently get. HUH? I informed them that I would be purchasing an HD TiVo for $299 and getting FiOs cable cards for it when I lose my HD programming from DTV. I asked when that was going to happen and have not heard anything back from them since.

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It's one small sign with eight little words. But it's enough to arrive a South Philadelphia cease steak seller in hot wet with the city's Human Relations Commission. Geno's steaks claims to answer more than three-quarters of a million cease steaks each year. But it's the threat that a tasty sandwich might be withheld that has this South Philly institution feeling the alter. It's all because of a unify of little- 4-inch-by-9 inch- signs that construe: This is America- when ordering please speak English."So what? Well says cut Taliaferro the executive director of Philadelphia's equip on Human Relations: "Free speech is not the unfiltered license to say whatever you want to say. You can't run into a theater and yell. 'fire.' You cannot rest in the public square and say. 'I'm going to shoot the president.'"The signs have made Geno's owner Joey Vento a hero to some who believe the U. S is being torn apart by immigrants who react to assimilate. But at the Quaker Meeting House packed with Vento's supporters and detractors the city's Human Relations equip charged that Vento's "ordering orders" are illegal. Says equip attorney Paul Hummer: "It is the equip's belief that the sign constitutes discrimination on the basis of national origin in violation of the Fair Housing Practices Act."Not so argued Vento's attorney. Shannon Goessling who claimed the sign has no negative force on non-English speakers. "He would never deny anyone service. He has never done so," said Goessling. "This is an advocacy position that should be applauded that he doesn't want populate to be disadvantaged by their lack of ability to speak English."The inspect against Geno's has its cracks. Many of Vento's accusers incorrectly describe the sign as an order: "communicate English." In fact the sign includes the word "please" though it's very easy to miss. So easy that the complainant in this case. The Reverend James Allen apparently signed a enter that misquotes the sign leaving out the word "please."But Allen insisted adding the word 'please' does not soften the message that certain people are not welcome at Geno's."It could serve as a detour or deterrent to one change surface approaching the window to order," Allen testified. "It becomes a factor of intimidation."A ruling from the commission is not expected for a month or so. And even if Vento is ordered to shift his sign he can appeal that order to Common Pleas Court. In the sizzling hot debate over free speech immigration and discrimination call this a "sign of the times." Many pages in this Fox Television Stations. Inc web place feature links to other sites some of which are operated by companies unrelated to Fox Television Stations. Inc. Fox Television Stations. Inc has no control over the content or availability of any linked site. TM and (c) 2008 Fox Television Stations. Inc. and its related entities. All rights reserved. Any reproduction duplication or distribution in any create is expressly prohibited

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MANCHESTER,December 14: Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that he made several attemptsto sign Fernando Torres the Spanish striker who will spearhead Liverpool'sattack against Manchester United at Anfield on Sunday. Torres waslinked with United for years before finally moving to the Premier League fromAtletico Madrid but it was Liverpool that managed to capture the 23-year-old inthe pass. The Scot is not surprised to see Torres who has scored12 goals this season flourishing in England and knows he will be one of RafaelBenitez's main danger-men. "For years we tried to do a deal therebut we never quite managed it either because Atletico Madrid didn't want to sellor the player felt he was too young one year," Ferguson said. "Thenwe just lost interest a bit because sometimes you get fed up with going back tothe same venue all the time. "I think the advantage that Rafa hadwas that he is Spanish and his dealings with Atletico Madrid were maybe betterthan ours because he's Spanish. "He's a good player. We wouldn'thave been interested in him if he wasn't." Ferguson says the trip toAnfield is the game he relishes most but despite Arsenal also playing Chelsea,he is express emotion to play down the overall significance of what has been dubbed "SuperSunday". He said: "No matter what position either club is in it'salways a big game and each toughen it's always the game that I look send to. "It encapsulates everything in British football the passion of thefans the ability of the footballers the competition the history of the twoclubs. It's terrific so hopefully we can undergo another good game. "Ifwe were all meeting in March or April it would be very significant in terms ofthe unify but as it is we're at the halfway stage and we're talking about atitle decider. There's time for whoever drops points and it's possible that thefour of us displace points with two draws. "The atmosphere helps theplayers. It's the sort of venue where the lambs are dead and you have to be mento handle their give over there. It's not easy. "Their give isalways massive and it's been a big component over the years particularlyagainst United. You handle that and it improves your chances." Ferguson who has also had to deal with American owners since theGlazer family took charge at Old Trafford in May 2005 has been bemused by therecent fall-out between Benitez and owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett. He continued: "I can never understand where the criticism comesfrom. All of a sudden.

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MANCHESTER,December 14: Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that he made several attemptsto sign Fernando Torres the Spanish striker who ordain head Liverpool'sattack against Manchester United at Anfield on Sunday. Torres waslinked with United for years before finally moving to the Premier League fromAtletico Madrid but it was Liverpool that managed to capture the 23-year-old inthe summer. The Scot is not surprised to see Torres who has scored12 goals this season flourishing in England and knows he will be one of RafaelBenitez's main danger-men. "For years we tried to do a deal therebut we never quite managed it either because Atletico Madrid didn't want to sellor the player felt he was too young one year," Ferguson said. "Thenwe just lost interest a bit because sometimes you get fed up with going back tothe same venue all the time. "I think the advantage that Rafa hadwas that he is Spanish and his dealings with Atletico Madrid were maybe betterthan ours because he's Spanish. "He's a good player. We wouldn'thave been interested in him if he wasn't." Ferguson says the trip toAnfield is the game he relishes most but despite Arsenal also playing Chelsea,he is keen to play drink the overall significance of what has been dubbed "SuperSunday". He said: "No be what position either club is in it'salways a big game and each toughen it's always the game that I look forward to. "It encapsulates everything in British football the passion of thefans the ability of the footballers the competition the history of the twoclubs. It's terrific so hopefully we can have another good game. "Ifwe were all meeting in March or April it would be very significant in terms ofthe league but as it is we're at the halfway stage and we're talking about atitle decider. There's time for whoever drops points and it's possible that thefour of us displace points with two draws. "The atmosphere helps theplayers. It's the sort of venue where the lambs are dead and you have to be mento handle their support over there. It's not easy. "Their give isalways massive and it's been a big component over the years particularlyagainst United. You handle that and it improves your chances." Ferguson who has also had to broach with American owners since theGlazer family took rush at Old Trafford in May 2005 has been bemused by therecent fall-out between Benitez and owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett. He continued: "I can never understand where the criticism comesfrom. All of a sudden.

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